Comments on: Google Gives John Chow a Handjob http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html Internet Marketing, product reviews, affiliate marketing, SEO Sat, 22 May 2010 10:47:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Google Gives John Chow a Handjob | Armchair Entrepreneur http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-24381 Google Gives John Chow a Handjob | Armchair Entrepreneur Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:07:27 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-24381 [...] Google Gives John Chow a Handjob Warning, this short post contains sexual innuendo (guess it s too late for the warning now ) as well as a completely unproven conspiracy theory. Google s Problem People are selling links which influence search engine rankings. Google hasn t found a real way to do anything about it. They can identify some links algorithmically but not most […] [...] [...] Google Gives John Chow a Handjob Warning, this short post contains sexual innuendo (guess it s too late for the warning now ) as well as a completely unproven conspiracy theory. Google s Problem People are selling links which influence search engine rankings. Google hasn t found a real way to do anything about it. They can identify some links algorithmically but not most […] [...]

]]> By: Google Gives John Chow a Handjob http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-23814 Google Gives John Chow a Handjob Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:45:39 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-23814 [...] Google Gives John Chow a Handjob Warning, this short post contains sexual innuendo (guess it s too late for the warning now ) as well as a completely unproven conspiracy theory. Google s Problem People are selling links which influence search engine rankings. Google hasn t found a real way to do anything about it. They can identify some links algorithmically but not most […] [...] [...] Google Gives John Chow a Handjob Warning, this short post contains sexual innuendo (guess it s too late for the warning now ) as well as a completely unproven conspiracy theory. Google s Problem People are selling links which influence search engine rankings. Google hasn t found a real way to do anything about it. They can identify some links algorithmically but not most […] [...]

]]> By: Bill http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-20981 Bill Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:50:59 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-20981 Page Rank is getting to be an absolute pain in the know what! I recently reviewed a report from a Clickbank Guru who was complaining that he dropped from a page rank of 3 (on the first page) to 375. No explanation from Google and little had changed in the page rank listings except his. I should note that he had not made a change to his web page either. His statement: "Who the hell can make a living online with this kind of nonsense!!!" My question: Why bother with page rank and all the SEO nonsense when you can use the "payload" method to make money? You give arbitrage the same intense study and work getting a bigger reward overall. Am I wrong? Page Rank is getting to be an absolute pain in the know what! I recently reviewed a report from a Clickbank Guru who was complaining that he dropped from a page rank of 3 (on the first page) to 375. No explanation from Google and little had changed in the page rank listings except his. I should note that he had not made a change to his web page either.

His statement: “Who the hell can make a living online with this kind of nonsense!!!”

My question: Why bother with page rank and all the SEO nonsense when you can use the “payload” method to make money? You give arbitrage the same intense study and work getting a bigger reward overall. Am I wrong?

]]> By: alex http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-18007 alex Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:16:41 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-18007 Hi Peter, Seems Google is confused too. Actually, a lot of the flux is likely due to viewing info from different data centers. As for the PR 2, if you have a lot of affiliate links going through that page, it might explain it. Internal PR from a decent site is enough to make a page PR 2 easily. Hi Peter,

Seems Google is confused too.

Actually, a lot of the flux is likely due to viewing info from different data centers.

As for the PR 2, if you have a lot of affiliate links going through that page, it might explain it. Internal PR from a decent site is enough to make a page PR 2 easily.

]]> By: Peter http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-17938 Peter Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:17:19 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-17938 I am totaly confused by this pagerank update. One site of mine which had PR 1 dropped to PR 0 and another site which had PR 0 went to PR 3? Some links of this site have now PR 2 while they are nothing more than a .htm file generated with 'affiliatelinkcloaker'. I have not one external link to these .htm files, they are only there for the users convience.... I am totaly confused by this pagerank update. One site of mine which had PR 1 dropped to PR 0 and another site which had PR 0 went to PR 3?
Some links of this site have now PR 2 while they are nothing more than a .htm file generated with ‘affiliatelinkcloaker’. I have not one external link to these .htm files, they are only there for the users convience….

]]> By: alex http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-17752 alex Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:35:41 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-17752 Hey Andy, For the record, you're not included in the "belly button monitoring" Google Crew. I understand your plight and in fact Google messes with this blog too, despite it being much less linked than yours. My most linked to post, which by any standard should have ton's of authority has a PR of 0 despite hundreds of decent to high PR links. My blog just went to PR 4 now even though it should have done so easily at the last update and since then I have participated in a low grade link scheme and not posted much. I doubt you will lose much in real terms from the penalties, which seem to be fluctuating at the moment. The reality is that Google is lashing out like an angry teenager rather than any concerted or intelligent improvement to their methodologies. Hey Andy,

For the record, you’re not included in the “belly button monitoring” Google Crew.

I understand your plight and in fact Google messes with this blog too, despite it being much less linked than yours.

My most linked to post, which by any standard should have ton’s of authority has a PR of 0 despite hundreds of decent to high PR links.

My blog just went to PR 4 now even though it should have done so easily at the last update and since then I have participated in a low grade link scheme and not posted much.

I doubt you will lose much in real terms from the penalties, which seem to be fluctuating at the moment. The reality is that Google is lashing out like an angry teenager rather than any concerted or intelligent improvement to their methodologies.

]]> By: Andy Beard http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-17722 Andy Beard Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:31:06 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-17722 Lets put this into perspective. I just looked at blogsearch and currently have 279 links to my main article. Technorati say 281 links If you are in the SEO niche, planning to launch something related to SEO, whilst you realise that that green bar is fairly meaningless for search results, it is part of your social proof. But there are also some ranking drops for stuff I am not really trying hard to rank for, such as DayJobKiller where I am down to 4th - it is not like I am doing a link building campaign for the term, I just gained a couple of poor quality links. I am still ranking 3rd for Jack's Social Power linking, Jack finally overtook me by doing some category changes plus he was probably "bending the web" to try to rank for his own product. I still have first page results for both Stomper Net (5th) at Stompernet (8th) again without too much effort. Ist page also for widgetbucks, volusion and a host of others. But... I am no longer ranking for defamed by google, you need to put it in quotes, and that gained some decent links. I drop in rankings on things like http://adage.com/power150/ - I should really be 10 places higher Things are still in flux, they are certainly not "normal" but it is great linkbait, though I do feel the effect financially more than someone just looking for rankings. "no proof, no launch" as Jeff Walker would say. Lets put this into perspective.

I just looked at blogsearch and currently have 279 links to my main article.
Technorati say 281 links

If you are in the SEO niche, planning to launch something related to SEO, whilst you realise that that green bar is fairly meaningless for search results, it is part of your social proof.

But there are also some ranking drops for stuff I am not really trying hard to rank for, such as DayJobKiller where I am down to 4th – it is not like I am doing a link building campaign for the term, I just gained a couple of poor quality links.

I am still ranking 3rd for Jack’s Social Power linking, Jack finally overtook me by doing some category changes plus he was probably “bending the web” to try to rank for his own product.

I still have first page results for both Stomper Net (5th) at Stompernet (8th) again without too much effort.

Ist page also for widgetbucks, volusion and a host of others.

But…

I am no longer ranking for defamed by google, you need to put it in quotes, and that gained some decent links.

I drop in rankings on things like http://adage.com/power150/ – I should really be 10 places higher

Things are still in flux, they are certainly not “normal” but it is great linkbait, though I do feel the effect financially more than someone just looking for rankings.

“no proof, no launch” as Jeff Walker would say.

]]> By: Alex http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-17558 Alex Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:25:19 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-17558 Hey Dagmar, Yup. that's definitely a big part of it. Sometimes it's just funny to watch them squirm :P Hey Dagmar,

Yup. that’s definitely a big part of it. Sometimes it’s just funny to watch them squirm :P

]]> By: Dagmar http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-17552 Dagmar Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:07:14 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-17552 To me: First and foremost Google wants to get rid of the competition as much as possible! (what else is new right?) What exactly is their Adwords? Basically the Same = Paid Text links! Second: from my experience Focused Traffic brings me money not some invented artificial "page rank". To me:

First and foremost Google wants to get rid of the competition as much as possible! (what else is new right?)
What exactly is their Adwords? Basically the Same = Paid Text links!

Second: from my experience Focused Traffic brings me money not some invented artificial “page rank”.

]]> By: alex http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html/comment-page-1#comment-17363 alex Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:21:48 +0000 http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/google-gives-john-chow-a-handjob.html#comment-17363 Hey Chris, Thanks. I've had it up the wazoo with this PR story but the John Chow Google handjob title was too good to resist posting... Hey Chris,

Thanks. I’ve had it up the wazoo with this PR story but the John Chow Google handjob title was too good to resist posting…

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